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Victor Thorn: Last Friday we ran a parody article which stated that you were going to change the name of your website and radio show to INFOMERCIAL.com. What did you think of it?
“Alex Jones”: Thanks for breaking that story, and if you want to know the truth, I think it’s a great idea. After thinking about it long and hard, the reason behind the name change is obvious: I need something to accurately reflect my mission; and since I’m doing the hard-sell and want people to buy buy buy, there couldn’t be a better name than INFOMERCIAL.com. For the same reason, I might also change the name of Prison Planet to PURCHASE PLANET.com. So remember everybody – buy my videos. Buy my videos.
Lisa Guliani: On January 11, 2005 you called into a radio show and said the following: “Everyone in the freedom movement should join together and not worry about past grievances.” Well, Alex, over the past few months we’ve tried to do just that with you by extending our hand and offering you an olive branch. We even wrote an article entitled Alex Jones & the Common Cause: United We Stand which showed our sincerity. So, when you said that we should all come together, we took you at your word, but for some reason you didn’t honor your own words. Why?
“Alex Jones”: C’mon now, everybody knows that I never meant what I said. That was just lip-service. I was just showboating and trying to bolster myself. Plus, the only reason why I call into these radio shows is to plug my videos. That’s obvious, isn’t it? All I do is use these other radio hosts for free advertising and free plugs. I never really intended to be a team player. It just sounded good at the time and puffed-up my reputation. I never expected anyone to actually call me on it. I just want people to buy my videos.
Victor Thorn: Another thing that we were very much disappointed in with you Alex was your refusal to help us get the word out about the tenth anniversary of the OKC bombing. Considering the proximity of Austin to Oklahoma, why weren’t you a part of this larger cause?
“Alex Jones”: Are you kidding? I do have a cause – to make as much money and sell as many videos as I possibly can. What other cause is there?
Lisa Guliani: I’d like to follow-up on that question, Alex. When we were at the OKC speaker’s forum, we heard somebody asking why you weren’t in attendance, and why you hadn’t promoted this event. Then somebody else answered, “There wasn’t any money to be made, that’s why!” What are your thoughts on this?
“Alex Jones”: Believe it or not, they’re absolutely correct. The only time I do something is when it puts money in my pocket. Look at my trip last year to the Republican National Convention in New York City. Do you think I cared about this larger cause? Of course not. I went there to film my latest video so I could sell it to my listeners. I mean, how much money did you guys make in OKC?
Lisa Guliani: Actually, we lost money going there, but that didn’t matter to us because we weren’t selling anything. The books we did take with us we gave away for free.
“Alex Jones”: Y’see, that’s what I mean. I never do anything unless there’s a profit motive in it for me. Plus, there’s another reason why I didn’t go to OKC. Since I wasn’t the one sponsoring this event and it wasn’t about me or my videos, I wasn’t going to give any attention to anybody else. I don’t do anything unless I’m the center of attention. Just remember – Alex Jones doesn’t play second fiddle to anybody, so buy my video. Buy my video.
Victor Thorn: Since you mentioned wanting to be the center of attention, is that one of the reasons why you don’t have certain guests on your show?
“Alex Jones”: Of course. I don’t want people going to too many other sites because that means they’ll spend less time on my site. Plus, if they spend less time on my site; that means there’s less chance that they’ll buy my products. The world should revolve around me. I’m Alex Jones!
Lisa Guliani: Alex, we close our television show every day with the following message in our photo gallery: “Don’t pay for Internet news – WING TV always free.” What do you think of that slogan?
“Alex Jones”: I hate it. I absolutely despise it. And do you know why? Because it puts the wrong idea into people’s heads. I don’t want my customers … I mean my listeners … to know they can get TV for free on the Internet. If they did, then they wouldn’t subscribe to my pay-per-view site. Here’s the bottom line: I want people’s money – and lots of it. Buy my videos. Subscribe to my pay-per-view site. You guys at WING TV are ruining everything because you’re giving people information for free. That’s why I don’t want anyone going to your site. People should pay pay pay for information, not get it for free.
Victor Thorn: How do you respond to people saying that you’re nothing but a walking advertisement, or that your radio show is one long infomercial?
“Alex Jones”: I’d say it’s true because if there’s a dollar to be had, I’ll sniff it out. And if you want to know the truth, there’s not much difference between me and Ron Popeil, or those guys who sell Ginsu knives and Chia pets at 3:00 in the morning on late-night TV. So what I did was see an opening in the New World Order market, and then capitalized on it. Some people are waging this battle for purely selfless reasons – to get the word out - but not me. I make MORE MONEY than anyone else in this field, I’m king of the hill, and it’s going to stay that way! Even when I tell people to make copies of my videos and give them out, there’s a strategy behind it.
Victor Thorn: What’s that?
“Alex Jones”: It’s free advertising, stupid. Can’t you see? I get people to spend a lot of money buying my video in the first place; then they spread the word about me for free so that other people will buy my products. Hell, this is Wall Street marketing 101.
Lisa Guliani: Was this why you absolutely refused to criticize Art Bell after he had the propagandist Ben Chertoff from Popular Mechanics on his show telling blatant lies about 9-11?
“Alex Jones”: Absolutely. Art Bell’s a total phony, but since he butters my bread and lets me on Coast-to-Coast AM to sell my videos, I’ll never bite the hand that feeds me. Even when every other person in the alternative media field was screaming bloody murder, did you notice that I never said a bad thing about him? What I did instead was distract attention away from Art and put it onto Chertoff so as to not jeopardize my chance to get back on Coast-to-Coast. I’d even go so far as to get mad at callers who tried to criticize Bell. Remember, it’s not the truth that matters, but protecting one’s self-interests. So c’mon, buy my videos!
Victor Thorn: On WING TV, we’re very big into telling people to stand-up, get active, and be unafraid. But on your radio show, it seems as if you’re the king of fear-mongering, which ultimately cripples people and keeps them passive. Why is that?
“Alex Jones”: The answer is simple. Fear sells and it pads my pockets. It’s much easier to control someone when they’re traumatized or in a state of panic, and therefore its easier to have them buy my videos. Psychologists and sociologists have known this for decades. So, if I did make people strong and unafraid, they wouldn’t buy into the fear-mongering schtick that I make my living off of. And in the end, how would that ultimately benefit me? I want people to buy my videos, so that’s why I constantly create this world of fear around them. It’s nothing more than a self-serving form of psychic driving.
Lisa Guliani: Let’s speak for a moment about an article we wrote called Alex Jones = Big Brother. In this piece we point out how you not only removed all of my articles from your site, but you also censored an article written by Randy Lavello where, in addition to removing a hyperlink to my article, you also deleted an entire sentence that Lavello wrote in reference to my article. Alex, this is outright censorship, and you’ve refused to answer for your actions to either Lavello or me. How do you respond?
“Alex Jones”: You guys are starting to irritate me, and I don’t like it. I’ve spent a lot of years carefully crafting my image, and now you’re chipping away at it and letting people see the real me. Now, getting back to your question, yes, I DID censor the article you referred to, and in that sense it makes me exactly like the people I’m supposedly rebelling against. Alex Jones isn’t Big Brother, but he is the next best thing to God.
Victor Thorn: I’d like to note at this point that never once has George Bush, the New World Order, or the U.S. government censored our material, but Alex Jones deliberately altered Randy Lavello's article by deleting an entire sentence - along with a hyperlink - without notifying the author beforehand, or without his permission. This is direct censorship, and we should think about this point for a moment because it should send shudders down your spine.
“Alex Jones”: Don’t keep repeating that; you’re making me look bad. And to everyone watching WING TV right now, I command you: do not read the Alex Jones = Big Brother article, or any others on their site. It’s killing the image that’s taken me so long to create. Instead, all you should do is buy my videos and let me do your thinking for you. Forget about all that other stuff, don’t ask any questions, and just listen to me. I know what’s best for you.
Lisa Guliani: When you spoke with Victor on the phone a month or so ago, he told you on at least three different occasions that if you didn’t want us on your show, just say so and he’d never broach the subject with you again. But you kept saying, “Oh no no, that’s not it. I’ll have you guys on sometime.” But now it’s clear that you never had any intention whatsoever of doing so. On the other hand, if we don’t want someone on our show, we have the guts to say flat-out that we don’t want them. Alex, why weren’t you man enough to tell Victor the truth instead of dancing around in circles?
“Alex Jones”: Because either way I lose; and that would make me look bad. And before I go on, remember that where I’m concerned – appearances are EVERYTHING! With that in mind, if you were on my show, more people would find out that WING TV is free, and they wouldn’t fork-over their hard-earned money to me for my pay-per-view site. Conversely, if I said I didn’t want you on my show, then you’d tell people about it and they’d start asking me the reason why. And since lots of people are starting to wonder why I won’t talk to you about the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center towers, I’m between a rock and a hard place. So let’s forget all about it and just buy my video.
Victor Thorn: Alex, I hate to say this, but in my opinion it’s VERY PATHETIC that the mainstream media – specifically, a Knight-Ridder subsidiary – has given our information more coverage than you have … and you’re supposedly at the forefront of the Patriot media movement. We want everyone to think about this, because in our mind, this doesn’t make any sense, especially when you said on January 11 that all of us should come together as one. How can that be?
“Alex Jones”: I … I … I don’t know what to say. Just subscribe to my pay-per-view-site.
Lisa Guliani: Alex, you act like you don’t know anything about our show, but when Victor spoke with you on the phone a couple of different times, you seemed to be quite knowledgeable about it, like who does the opening music, the Art Bell exorcism, etc.
“Alex Jones”: Believe me, I keep an eye on my competition … er, I probably shouldn’t say it that way. What I meant was; I know what my adversaries are up to. Oh wait, that sounds hypocritical too because according to me, we’re all supposed to be on the same team.
Lisa Guliani: Alex, you must see the world differently than we do because we did everything humanly possible to join forces with you – even going so far as to write a retraction for our Alex Jones = Big Brother article … just like you asked us to do. But you still refused to accept our olive branch. Why?
“Alex Jones”: Because if we became organized as a whole, it would take the focus away from me and I wouldn’t be the center of attention any longer. So I plan on telling everyone that your criticisms are nothing more than a distraction; then I’ll jump right back into my fear-mongering schtick. It’s vitally important that the people in my cult … I mean my listening audience … don’t slip away and start thinking for themselves. That would be a disaster.
Victor Thorn: Last but not least, Alex, since you mentioned the mainstream media, we’ve noticed that you’re beginning to look a lot like them. Specifically, (a) you restricted the free-flow of information by not telling your listeners about 9-11 on Trial and the OKC 10th anniversary truth rally, (b) you engage in overt censorship, and (c) you’re obsessed with the hard-sell of your products. How do you respond?
“Alex Jones”: Let’s see. I have refused to cover 9-11 on Trial, just like the mainstream media, and I have deliberately censored essential material, just like the mainstream media. On top of that, I push my products harder than McDonalds, Pepsi, Chevrolet, or a used-car salesman. So, even though I hate to admit it, I am becoming like the mainstream media. Ugggghhhh! I’m out of here – BUY MY VIDEOS! BUY MY VIDEOS!
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